How Perfectionism Could Be Stealing Your Dreams with Mitch Matthews - Cari Kenzie

Episode #9How Perfectionism Could Be Stealing Your Dreams with Mitch Matthews

Cari Kenzie 5 October 2023

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Podcast Description:

Welcome back, friends!

Today I welcome our first official repeat guest on the show, Mitch Matthews! You’ll remember his power-packed conversation from episode 3. It felt like the episode ended too soon, so I knew I had to have him back to share more of his incredible insight.

In this conversation, Mitch and I navigate through the intricate web of dreams, aspirations, and the silent, often unnoticed killer of them – perfectionism. This topic is not just a concept but a lived reality for many of us, including myself.

As a dream expert, Mitch shares how this is one of the #1 ways people stop dreaming and high achievers stop reaching new levels. Perfectionism, as Mitch and I discuss, often sprouts from a genuine heart for excellence, which in its essence, is a beautiful thing…

A heart that seeks excellence is a heart that cares deeply, and that wants to bring the best into the world. However, when that desire for excellence morphs into a pursuit of perfection, we enter a realm that is not only fruitless but can also suffocate our dreams before they have a chance to breathe.

Hit play now to hear the full conversation!

In short, the goal is not perfection. The goal is process. Listen to the end, and you’ll also hear Mitch share stories of individuals who allow themselves the grace to be novices, to start small, and to embrace the process without being tethered to a perfect outcome. These stories are not just narratives; they are reminders that our dreams can take flight not when they are perfect, but when they are real, authentic, and allowed the space to evolve.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did! Let me know your thoughts, reach out and connect via the links below.



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Episode Minute By Minute Breakdown:

  • 0:10 Get to know Mitch Matthews!
  • 002:39 Dreaming 101: Dreams and the catalytic moments that sometimes launch us into having to redefine a dream or step into it.
  • 5:40 Mitch talks about the comparison and pressure arising from social media and the pressure even young children feel to excel in activities like sports.
  • 17:36 Cari shares a personal story about her middle son and his determination during a mile run, highlighting the importance of not going easy on oneself.
  • 18:54 Mitch shares some of the coolest dreams he has seen become reality.
  • 23:44 Mitch talks about the importance of releasing attachment to outcomes and committing to the journey, even if the outcome isn’t clear or guaranteed.
  • 25:25 Cari emphasizes the importance of taking action without knowing what will come of it in big and small things.
  • 29:28 The power of small steps: discuss the impact that dedicating even small amounts of time, like 15 minutes, to a task or goal can have over a longer period.
  • 30:09 Mitch highlights one of the most dangerous things for successful people: perfectionism.
  • 34:12 The importance of progress, not perfection, and how allowing oneself to focus on the positive.

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